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5-year-old boy from a school bus saturday after fatally shooting the driver. funeral services were held for the driver who is being hailed as a hero for protecting the other students. new details about that missing american woman whose body was found yesterday in turkey. sarai sierra died from a blow to the head. the 32-year-old mother of two also had stab wounds. police are questioning up to ten people in connection with the case. she was reported missing after failing to board her flight home to new york on january 22nd. i want you to take a look at this, a man whips out a knife at buckingham palace and holds it to his own throat. this happened during the changing of the guard. a tourist caught the whole thing on camera. here it is happening right now. police moved in quickly and we'll show you what happened coming up. two men killed in texas this weekend shot to death at a gun range. both victims military veterans. the suspect also a former military man. one of the then kill sd a
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well-known former navy s.e.a.l. and acclaimed military sniper. chris kyle wrote a best-selling book about his life in combat. police are trying to figure out what happened that led to the death of kyle and his friend. cnn's susan candiotti closely following this story for us. susan, what details can you fill us in on? >> reporter: it's just so sad. when legendary navy s.e.a.l. sniper chris kyle and his friend chad littlefield took another marine vet, 25-year-old eddie ray routh, to a gun range, they never managed the weapons could be turned on them. but police say that's exactly what happened. wf kyle and littlefield shot dead multiple times at a remote area of a gun range near ft. worth, texas. police say they were found nearly two hours later by a guide at the range. investigators say routh drove off in kyle's pickup truck and headed to his sister's house. he allegedly told her and his brother who had happened. he left and then his brother and sister called police. when a slew of police officers
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arrived at his house, routh was in kyle's pickup truck. a hostage negotiator tried to talk him out of the car, but then he took off down the road. here is how a witness described it. >> i was scared. i'm sitting below the window line. i was peeking out, but they had him -- they had like four shotguns on him, i believe. it's dark out here so i really did the best counting i could. and next thing i know a little time passes, he starts up the truck, and all after sudden he rushes down the road, and they all take off after him. >> reporter: police caught up with him and took him into custody without further incident. about 25 to 30 other weapons were found at the crime scene, including handguns, ak-47s, and long guns, but police believe the murder weapon is a semiautomatic handgun that they eventually found at routh's house. they're still waiting ballistic tests to come back. don? >> any idea of a motive, susan?
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>> reporter: they don't know yet and we may never know because the only witness is the alleged killer. police believe this is the first time kyle and littlefield met routh. kyle, you know, has a foundation where he helps veterans with post-traumatic stress and the three men went to the range together in kyle's pickup truck. police think maybe this was supposed to be therapy for routh. now, police don't know if routh suffered from pstd. this is how they say all the men knew each other. >> there has been some mention of the suspect's mother was a school teacher for what we understand for a long time. she may have reached out to mr. kyle to try and help her son. >> reporter: now, routh is being held on $3 million bond, and it is a jail cell, he's there all by himself so police can keep an eye on him. he's charged with two murder counts, and he hasn't had a chance yet to enter a plea. don? >> but still not sure about the connection between these two men, right?
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they're still investigating? >> reporter: well, yes, but they do think that the mother of the suspect in this case may have reached out to kyle and asked him to help routh, and that's why they think they got together at the shooting range, because it may have been some sort of part of their therapy for him. and that's when this whole thing apparently happened. >> all right. susan candiotti, thank you very much. as a decorated former navy s.e.a.l., chris kyle was doing a lot of good work for fellow veterans. here is cnn's nick valencia. nick? >> reporter: as a navy s.e.a.l., chris kyle survived four tours of combat duty. but it was at this gun range outside of dallas, texas, where he died. around the corner from his home at the age of 38. he was known to millions of americans as the author of the best-selling book "american sniper" where he chronicled his combat missions. in six years kyle said he killed more than 150 iraqi insurgents. he became so hated by them he had a bounty on his head. >> started every time someone
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would be shot by a sniper in the area, they associated that with me. >> reporter: to iraqi insurgents he was known as the devil of ramadi. to his fellow navy s.e.a.l.s, kyle was called the legend. born in east texas, he loved horses, but most of all, he loved his family and helping people. according to his friends, almost immediately after returning from combat, kyle started the heroes project to help soldier suffering from ptsd. >> he had a vision to support veterans and their needs and he was fearless in that, and he gave his life doing so. >> reporter: his friends remember him as a family man. the emotional exhaustion of being away from his family took such a toll on them, he finally took home. >> i took it as an ultimatum, either you get out or she and my kids were going to be gone. >> of course, he looked at that and thought the marriage would be over. and he's probably right. i honestly didn't think that far ahead. >> reporter: kyle is survived by his wife and two small children.
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don? >> nick valencia, thank you. in alabama funeral service was held today for the school bus driver fatally shot trying to defend children from a man police say is holding a young boy hostage in an underground bunker. the standoff is in its sixth day. cnn's martin savidge is in midland city for us. martin, the bus driver is being called a hero. what are people saying about him tonight? >> reporter: well, they are saying every kind of word that means hero when they refer to charles poland. that's exactly what he's being considered by just about everybody in this community because of what he did, the fact he was driving the school bus and according to witnesses stood up and tried to protect the lives of the 20-some children that were on that bus. and then died as a result of it. i should update you a little bit on the standoff itself. not a major change but there was a news conference originally scheduled, it's been cancelled. not uncommon. it simply means authorities haven't got anything really new to say. very little information coming
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out because these are very sensitive negotiations that are ongoing. the concern is that perhaps the suspect here may have some way to listen to news media. but then you get this very specific information from time to time from authorities, and they mentioned that tonight cheese its, a snack food, was delivered as as well as a hot wheels car which would, of course, be for ethan as he sits inside in what must be a horrible circumstance inseed of that bunker. hundreds of people showed up at the memorial service, co-workers, teachers, there were officials of all kinds, and then there were a lot of strangers. people who were so motivated by his story, by what he did that they wanted to be there and they just basically wanted to show that they paid their respects. and there were even prayers that were made for jimmy lee dykes, the man who is believed to be holding the 5-year-old boy. so they hope that his heart could be turned by the prayers today. that remains to be seen. afterwards though, there were people lining the funeral procession route as it headed
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towards the cemetery, and i talked to one woman, she is a bus driver of 23 years. she drove her bus, made sure she was on the route so the family saw her. tomorrow her school starts again for the first time since this incident, and i asked her how she felt about that. >> i know there wasn't anything going to happen, but it was just the thoughts of what happened behind that wheel, and as i drove it further down the road, i began to settle down, you know, and then when i got out here, i saw my children out here. they hugged me. they cried with me. you know, it kind of eased my fears and i know it eased theirs, too. >> reporter: really a remarkable scene there, don, because there's the bus driver with her bus with the children who ride the bus all supporting one another and wanting to show their support for the family. don? >> what do we say, the sixth day and being down in that bunker. it's not very big even though we're getting differing reports
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on the size of that bunker. what are you hearing? >> reporter: you know, it's amazing to sort of realize that all of this attention, all of this effort is being focused. you're not hearing a lot. and as i said, i think that there is a great concern within the community, certainly within law enforcement, that they don't want to give anything away that could jeopardize, anger in some way, the man who is holding the gun or jeopardize the life of that young boy. behind us a helicopter taking off, one of the sheriffs. another asset that's been brought down here. there are a lot of people that are working to try to get that little boy free. hopefully it will be done through words and through someone giving in and not by force. we'll see. don? >> thank you, martin savidge. a man flashes a massive knife outside buckingham palace. ahead, how police acted quickly to stop him from hurting himself or anyone else. geico's emergency roadside assistance is there 24/7.
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shows him getting agitated as police close in. he starts yelling and slashing the air with his knife. finally lunging at a police officer. you see the officer retreat and then firing his taser. that knocked the man to the ground where he was handcuffed. pakistani teen activist is awake and talking after successful operations to repair her skull and boost her hearing. taliban gunmen tried to assassinate the 15-year-old in october because she had spoken out in favor of girls' education. she is recovering in a british hospital. millions of people are on the run in war-torn syria. they lost their homes to shelling and bombs and now they are trying to restart their lives. cnn's frederik pleitgen has the latest from damascus. >> reporter: while the streets in central damascus are fairly quiet, fierce fighting in the capital suburbs can be heard and seen throughout the day. this woman tells us her name is
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jamila, she says her house was destroyed during the battles. she fled to the relative safety of damascus with her two children, one only a month old. but now she sees the violence closing in on her again. >> translator: we are afraid. sometimes i want to take all my thing and sleep outside in the park because it is safer than being indoors. >> reporter: she says she depends mostly on handouts from private people to get by. the u.n. estimates that around 2 million syrians have been internally displaced because of the ongoing conflict and many of those who remain in the government-controlled part of the country try to make it to this part of the capital. that's where we meet this woman who left her husband behind in the suburbs of damascus when fierce fighting broke out and he hasn't been heard from since. now she has to support four children on her own. >> translator: i am not the only one whose life has been destroyed or whose husband is missing. everyone in this country has a
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missing person or a destroyed home or is displaced. many, many have gone through this. we have been through so much. we have suffered and have come to hate life because of all these problems. >> reporter: we wanted to show you one of the places where people are staying. syrian government agents prevented us from doing so. there are many internally displaced people here in this area of damascus and most of them stay in the lowest cost hotels they can somehow afford. we tried going into some of these hotels and talking to these people but most of them were afraid, which is also due to the fact that there's a heavy presence of plainclothes security forces that are shadowing us. we went into one hotel and it took only two minutes for two officers to show up and say we had to stop working even though we have permission to film in all of damascus. we can't go into the hotel. we asked for an explanation and he said we needed additional permission to film in hotels and
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then he disappears. the shelling and clashes in the suburbs continue leaving more and more people fleeing for areas they hope are safer at least for a while. fled frig fred pleitgen, cnn. >> a picture of the president release skeet shooting as he is about to tackle gun control.
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live look at the capitol tonight. very busy and big week ahead for politics.
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we could know the fate of chuck hagel's nomination for defense secretary. they could vote later this week on his nomination. last week's hearing was a tough one for the former republican senator. he struggled with some questions and critics in both parties have said he seemed unprepared. but so far there appears to be no major effort to block his nomination. also ahead this week, the next chapter in the white house push for new gun restrictions. cnn's athena jones previews the president's strategy to spur congress to take action. >> reporter: president obama heads to mon monday. his first stop in a campaign to win support for his gun policy proposals. an effort he promised in newtown. >> in the coming weeks i will use whatever power this office holds to engage my fellow citizens. >> reporter: he'll meet with precedents and police in minneapolis, a city the white house says has taken important steps to reduce gun violence.
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over the weekend the white house released this photo of the president skeet shooting, a nod to gun shorts signaling gun owners have nothing to fear. >> it will be hard, but the time is now. you must act. >> former congresswoman gabby giffords, shot in the head two years ago, urged congress to be courageous and support measures like universal background checks and limiting the size of gun mg zens. steps the national rifle association rejected. >> law abiding gun owners will not accept blame for the acts of violence or deranged criminals. nor do we believe that government should dictate what we can lawfully own and use to protect our families. >> reporter: analysts are divided over how effective president obama's campaign-style effort will be. >> he needs to motivate a grassroots effort in order to combat what will be a very
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effective interest group effort in opposition to his goals. >> president obama has not done a very good job building relationships with congress. he needs to do that before he starts putting external pressure on them. >> the day after the president's trip to minnesota, a bipartisan group of house members plans to introduce a bill to make firearms trafficking a federal crime. and to beef up penalties for those who buy gun s for those nt allowed to have them. john kerry is off to a busy start. kerry spoke this weekend with leaders of israel and the palestinian authority. he also made calls to the foreign ministers of japan, south korea, around turkey. kerry was sworn into office on friday. l.a.'s mayor says he's not interested in joining president obama's cabinet, at least for now. antonio villaraigosa shot down rumors he might be considered to replace outgoing transportation secretary ray lahood.
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vi ya rig -- the boy scouts of america could decide to lift its ban on gay members as soon as tomorrow. the group holds its executive meeting this week in texas. republican governor rick perry of texas says there's no reason to change the ban. >> scouting is about teaching a substantial amount of life lessons, sexuality is not one of them. never has been, it doesn't need to be. >> governor perry, a former eagle scout, spoke yesterday before a statewide scout meeting. this church in kansas city, missouri, leaves no doubt where it stands on the issue of gay boy scouts. under a rainbow banner it welcomes all scouts and says it hopes other communities around the country will, too. even if the national policy changes, local scout troops can decide for themselves if they want to admit gay scouts and scout masters. and "the washington post," you can add it to the list of u.s. newspapers coming under attack from chinese hackers. just this week "the new york times", bloomberg news" and
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all right. the man who invented etch-a-sketch has died. the french electrician dreamed up the drawing toy in his garage
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back in 1950. etch-a-sketch's popularity got another boost when it appeared in the "toy story" movies. it's magic screen is in the national toy hall of fame. you could get coffee for a nickel and a shoe shine for a dime at grand central station the other day. those are prices from 1913 rolled back to celebrate the 100th birthday of the ornate manhattan icon. michael bloomberg, the mayor, told a packed hall that grand central station represents not only beauty and art but the city's commerce and industry. the highlight on friday's celebration was a presentation of a cake in the shape of the famous terminal clock and thousands of people singing "happy birthday." it is a beautiful, beautiful structure. this time singer chris brown apparently will not face any civil or criminal charges. fellow singer frank ocean said brown jumped him in a fight over
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a parking spot. brown is already on five years probation after assaulting his pop star girlfriend rihanna. >> ben affleck and his movie "argo" just keep piling up the awards. he's not nominated for an academy award for best director, but "argo" is up for best picture. you have probably seen half court shots before, but have you seen a player make it from half court to win the game from his knees? can you believe that? i had to see that again. look at that. what? that was daniel barley with the miracle shot for rush henrietta high school in rochester new york defeating their rival
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57-54. now, that is truly amazing. you can say amazing shot or you can say a miracle shot. can we see that one more time before we go? boom. all right. that's going to do it for me. i'll see you back here at 10:00 p.m. eastern. "gloria in her own words" starts right now. it gives me great pleasure to present to you gloria stei m steinem. >> are we going to win? yes. >> gloria steinem is one of those women who once noticed aren't easily forgotten. >> we are meant to feel we are nothing unless we are standing beside a man. >> some women are becoming more
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militant and their organizations are grouped in a kind of federation called women's liberation. >> these women are not kidding. they are deadly serious. what they are demanding is a greater share in the political power of this nation. >> females are supposed to stay home and have kids and keep the house clean. >> i like being treated as a lady. i like having a man hold my coat, open the door for me, all the little things that i think are important to a woman. >> sure, the women's libers are sincere, the homosexuals are sincere, about you they want to change the supreme law of our land. >> what we are talking about is a revolution and not a reform. >> gloria steinem is the most visible symbol of the woman's movement. >> you understand it's not a role exchange. we're not trying to do to men what men have done to us. we're trying to humanize both roles. >> every generation has its
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names. >> more than a third of this march are women under 25 years old. >> people who empower other people. >> susan b. anthony said our job is not to make young women grateful, it's to make them ungrateful. so they keep going. we're not going to stop. >> it's a person, male or female, who believes in the full social, economic, political equality of women and men, and i would say also act on it. when i first came to new york and tried to get an apartment, i discovered that landlords felt single women were not financially responsible, and if you could earn enough, you must be a hooker.
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the first year i freelanced, i spent a lot of time sleeping on the living room floors of my friends. i think that back then i'm not sure i knew what feminism was. i mean, you know, i had had one sentence in my textbook somewhere in the past that said women were given the vote. i thought it was all finished, it was all won, and if i was still having a lot of difficulty, it must be my personal fault. >> honey, when was the last time you baked a cake? >> last week. >> when i was growing up, we thought the position of women was biologically dictated. ♪ what a wonderful sight when your wash is done ♪ >> we didn't feel we had the right to be equal or to be angry. it was the '50s, and the women in college were still being educated to be mothers and the wives of executives and so on.
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and we were not learning about anything that had to do with women's own status in society. as a journalist, i wanted to write about what i was interested in, and that was politics. but there weren't so many women who were political reporters then, pretty few really. i wrote some unsigned pieces, what to do on dates in new york and how to cook without really cooking for men. all kinds of prif lfrivolous buy things. and then i did this bunny assignment. >> my name is hue hefner and i'm for publisher of playboy magazine. >> i worked as an playboy bunny to write be a expose. >> i started with a personal investment of $600. in eight years i built an he were pir worth $20 million. >> it was being presented as a
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gla glamorous place. it was not the glamorous place that hugh hefner was trying to sell it as. >> you were a bunny girl for a while, an undercover bunny girl. >> yeah, yeah. i went to write a story, i changed my name and went -- i thought i would get through, you know, a few auditions and write about the auditions but they were so desperate for people it kept going on and on and i ended up working off and on for about a month. i read all the ads that you were supposed to get $300 a week and it was this wonderful job. i was hired but i had to go through the training course which is at your own expense. >> reverse. there we go. fast, fast. okay. a real high carry. whoops, there we go. >> it was horrible. there was nothing fun about it. it's really hard work. you're carrying trays. you have three-inch high helts on. you're paid very little. the trays are heavy.
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your feet hurt. i learned what it's like to be hung on a meat hook. that's essentially the emotional experience of walking around in a costume that's so tight it would give a man a cleavage. the response to the article was amazing because the club was new then, and it was kind of blowing the glamour of the club. i regretted for many years having done it because it made me unserious, but as feminism began to dawn on my brain belatedly in life, i became glad i did it. i didn't exactly consciously know that i didn't want to get married. i just knew i didn't want to get married right then. >> have you ever been married? >> no, uh-uh. >> that's all? >> well, next question. why not? >> why not? >> i don't know. >> do you want to be? >> eventually, but it keeps receding two years in the comfortable distance.
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>> do you think about it a lot? >> yeah, i think so. i think you imagine what it would be like to be married to people you're going out with or people you meet. even if it's only for a second, think about it. don't you think about it? >> no. >> you don't? maybe it's a ladies thing. i don't know. >> people ask me why i'm not married. i just say i can't be in captivity. i somehow totally related to the character in breakfast at tiffany's. >> looking at me like that. >> i love you, you belong to me. >> no, people don't belong to people. >> of course they do. >> i'll never let anyone put me in a cage. >> i really identified with holly golytely. the streaked hair i can directly attribute to "breakfast at tiffany's." the aviator glasses were more about hiding. the bigger they were the more i felt like i could hide behind them.
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i came to new york, you know, full of idealism and wanting to write serious assignments, but as a freelance writer i was assigned things about fashion and food and makeup and babies or the low point of my life, writing about textured stockings. when i delivered a piece to my editor at the sunday times magazine, he generally gave me a choice like either i could go to a hotel room with him in the afternoon or mail his letters on the way out. there was no word for sexual harassment. it was just called life. so you had to find your own individual way around it. at a certain point in my 30s, i discovered that other women were saying this kind of thing, too, and the women's movement was just beginning, and i finally knew that i wasn't alone, you
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know. that i wasn't crazy. the system was crazy. the idea that i had a glamorous life came in part at least from the idea that if you were a pretty girl, whatever that meant, that you must be getting assignments for that reason or if you were ever photographed at a party, that was injure whole persona. you couldn't also be serious. so it did drive me crazy, you know, to be viewed in that way. it's the little things in life that make me smile. spending the day with my niece. i don't use super poligrip for hold meant, that you must be getting because my dentures fit well. before those little pieces would get in between my dentures and my gum and it was uncomfortable. even well-fitting dentures let in food particles. super poligrip is zinc free. with just a few dabs, it's clinically proven to seal out more food particles so you're more comfortable and confident while you eat. so it's not about keeping my dentures in, it's about keeping the food particles out. [ charlie ] try zinc free super poligrip.
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women make up 51% of the nation's population. are they in effect an oppressed majority? feminist leaders charge widespread discrimination. discrimination that keeps a woman from having an abortion if she wants it. >> i went as a journalist to cover a hearing at which women were standing up and telling their abortion experiences. >> women are no the going to sit quietly any longer. >> i had had an abortion when i first graduated from college. i was 22, and there was no women's movement then. there was no companionship.
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so i never told anybody. >> all right. will you please sit down or be removed. >> we're not going to sit down. >> and i listened to these women testify about all that they had to go through. >> treated like a common criminal. >> the injury, the danger, the infection, the sexual humiliation, you know, to get an illegal abortion, and i suddenly realized why is it a secret? you know if 1 in 3 women has needed an abortion in her lifetime in this country, why is it a secret? and why is it criminal? and why is it dangerous? and that was the big click. it transformed me, and i began to seek out everything i could find of what was then the burgeoning women's movement. when the women's movement started, i was the in-between person. i was neither the mother nor the daughter. i was in between. and perhaps that was helpful.
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>> what sort of a reaction have you encountered from men or from women since you have led it be known that you're active in the woman's rights movement? >> well, it's interesting. it's extreme, i think, in both directions. i mean, i now attract at any kind of gathering men who are very hostile to this movement. but the most touching response is from women. because it's like it pours out, all the frustrations and humiliations. you know, i don't think i'd ever felt part of a group before. >> today throughout the land there is a growing demand by some women that society begin to treat them as men, different from men but equal to them. >> most of this restaurant in chicago is open to women. but a small part is set aside for men who want to have a quick lunch by themselves.
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>> this is a restaurant which women have been breaking the barriers in are to us what the lunch counters were to the black movement. thus very serious and porment. >> we don't want to be intimidated by sign that is say men's buffet. would you like a sign up there that said blacks only, whites only. it's the same principles. women are people. >> i have no intentions of taking the sign down or changing the sign. if you can get a court order to take it down, fine. >> you have no intention of changing your policy of seg gra gated facilities. is that correct? >> if you women are that hard up for a glass of beer, i'd be glad to serve you at the bar. >> women are organizing themselves, demanding the same rights men have and even talking of revolution. it's the blossoming of the feminist movement. >> a woman can be a success in the business world, but it takes an exceptional woman and she will be fighting men's prejudices all the way. >> women went to work in this country shortly before the turn of the century. companies found they had no trouble adjusting to the dull, tedious jobs that men didn't
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want. today most women are still at the same tedious jobs and they earn only half of what men earn. >> women can't handle the responsibility that most men assume. >> most women i think have a problem with concentration. >> a woman's place is more in the home. >> theoretically august the 26th next could be an awful day for american males. that is the 50th anniversary of women's suffrage and to celebrate it the women's liberation movement proposes a nationwide strike. >> it was the first time in my life, and i think for many other women, too, that we marched for ourselves. march down fifth avenue. peacefully, norn violently. >> i have no children. i'm not here as someone who
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needs a daycare center or who understood the need for daycare centers until about three months ago when i was writing about the west 80th street daycare centers. it was then that i began to realize -- >> i remember when i got so frustrated with an inability to publish anything much about the movement that i actually started to go out and speak. suffer from too much mothers and too little fathers. so i went with my speaking partner, dorothy pitman, who was an african-american woman, and wherever we went was just astounding that there would be these huge crowds. >> obviously women's liberation is a big thing with you. >> yeah. >> and something, you know, that i would certainly like to incorporate -- >> but this isn't writing an essay and looking into a camera and reading it. >> i started to speak into
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in the beginning of the movement in the late '60s and early '70s, it was mostly
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treated with ridicule and so on, but once it started to really change the mainstream of the culture, it became a threat. >> it sounds like a demand for sameness, and that is abhorrent. to me, american cities compared to those in europe, create a relatively dull scene, but when it was the biggest advance in urban beautification since central park was created in manhattan. >> people say to me now, are you not upset sometimes when the press is hostile, and i always say to myself, well, hostility is a step forward from the ridicule that we started out with. >> gloria steinem was an extremely attractive woman, but most of the women i see in the women's liberation movement frankly couldn't lure me out of a burning beauty. >> there's a completely false
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image of feminists being antisexual, antihumorists. it's crazy, but that's how suffragists came to me, too. to do that is one way to stop the movement. so, perhaps, because i was, obviously, publicly none of those things, you know, i was leading what seemed to me an adventurous sexual life and doing all these diverse things, maybe i helped to break a false stereotype. >> i did, i did. but i quit just in time.
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